User talk:Salome

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Contents 1 Code halp 2 I really don't get it 3 On the topic that won't go away 4 hi 5 Other side to the story? 6 Emails 7 You deserve this! 8 -_- 9 Time Zones 10 [1] 11 Armor 12 Because that section is already long enough 13 writing skills 14 Don't be a spazz 15 Color Help 16 Name Pronunciation 17 Banners

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[edit] Code halp

So, I had to search through my own talk pages because I once saw a character bar that I really liked, and eventually, I found yours! Because the images go into the menu and I always found that neat. However, I've come across a small roadblock. All the images are different sizes, and I'm wondering what part of the code could help fix that. Several images need their own special sizes, and I can micromanage that myself. I just don't know where in that mess to do it :P-- anguard 20:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey Vanguard, I'm not sure I'm answering your question here but I think you mean the fact that the icons are hovering over the tabs themselves. Like the ranger icon is slightly above and to the right of Salome's name on the tab bar.

All of the important stuff can be found in this bit of code:

! style="width:9%" | <div style="position: relative; top:{{{relativ-top|30}}}px;">{{#if: {{{TabName1|}}} |[[Image:{{#var:image1}}.png |{{{size|30px}}}]]}}</div>

To adjust the position of the image you play about with the following bit of code:

{{{relativ-top|30}}}px

The numeric value there controls the vertical axis placement of the image, the higher the value, the lower the image will be into the tab.

Also you can resize the images by changing the values found in this bit of code:

{{{size|30px}}}

It should be noted however that in my use of the template, as found here, I override both of these values by containing the following usage:

| size=40px | relativ-top=27

which makes those values uniform across all tabs, regardless of whats in the source tab code, thus if you want to manually change each of the tabs pics to different sizes and placements, I would recommend manually changing the source tab template code.

Sorry for my wordy explanation, I'm always a bit crap at explaining my use of code as its mostly what I've cobbled together from things I've seen elsewhere which I've liked. Lensor would be able to help you more than I in this instance really, as I used hers as a template for my own. But I will help anyway I can matey. Regards -- Salome 21:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll attempt to figure it out on my own, but I might need to call on you to fiddle with it yourself, if that's okay D:-- anguard 14:33, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I got it :D-- anguard 14:56, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I really don't get it

I really do not understand why you are being such a hard head about this Nicholas link. Of course it is going to use something that isn't used elsewhere. The optional fields in the {{archive-box}} are perfectly viable and acceptable options. I don't understand why you can't be in any way flexibile. IMO it makes you a HORRIBLE candidate for Bcrat, and even worse as a sysop. -- Wyn talk 19:55, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Wyn, it is a shame that you interpret people not agreeing with you as being hard headed. I am also somewhat surprised that you still take intellectual disagreements about the formation of the wiki in such a personal manner. I know you care about this wiki, so do I and so do alot of people, being able to discuss what we care about in an open forum and how we would like the wiki to grow, is part of the joy of the wiki and the continual free flow of ideas is a positive thing. If you read my comments you will see that time and again I am trying to think up of solutions to this issue and I have not once suggested removing the link completely or have I tried to completely disregard other peoples suggestions. Instead I have repeatedly thought and rethought of ways we could compromise and make things work. Having an archive box which says "Alternative Nicholas Archive" when read as a normal user, does not make any sense. I am currently seeing if their is a way I could manually mod the archive box on that page, so that it can be both clear, prominent and useful to all users involved. Beyond that I have to say I fail to see why you are taking this so personally. As a sysop one knows that a user putting forward their point of view in a respectable manner is not to be confused with trolling or being disruptive. Thus far however many of your comments have been emotional and defensive throughout with continued comments that could just incite flames than you have continued to personal messages on both de konnings page and my own venting your frustration. To be honest I'm a bit surprised by that and a bit disappointed that you are letting your more emotional side over run the logical Wyn that I both care about and respect, thus in the interests of friendship may I ask that you both reread my messages as a friend rather than an adversary and take a new look at what I've been saying. All along I've been trying to work with you to find workable solutions, not against you. Be well Wyn and warm regards -- Salome 20:06, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

But modifying the archive box goes back to using a format that isn't used anywhere else, so you are contradicting yourself. As to taking this personally, I really am not, I just don't understand that absolute resistance to any of the suggestions that have been made. Considering there was no resistance at all to having the alternative dialogue actually ON the talk page for MONTHS, adding a simple, single line link at the top of the talk page seemed a very unobtrusive, and acceptable solution, and even poke agreed. The fact that you are lawyering against a permanent link (even though that appears to be the clearest way to make it clear it is NOT game factual, and trying to hide it away as another archive (which it is not) just doesn't make any sense. I am not saying this because you are disagreeing with ME, it's just prolonging something that really doesn't merit the amount of debate it has gotten, and I'm just dumbfounded at the whole thing. I really wish people would stop calling me emotional, because the only emotion I have exhibited is sheer disbelief at the absolute inability of some people to compromise. -- Wyn talk 20:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Wyn I'm not going to argue with you about if you have been emotional or not. If you feel you haven't been, then I won't tell you that you have. Either way instead of jumping on me, take a look at what I've been working on ever since you mentioned modding the archive box. (I have attached an image below. I just need to get the code right and I'm pestering a few guys to help me code it, I also think if we made this change to the archive box template as an extra variable it might come in handy in the future if this ever arises again in the future. What do you think? -- Salome 20:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I think it's great. And you might want to move your question (not this whole topic, please, that talk page is already long enough) to the relevant talk page. Just so as to not fuel anymore of the ramblings about elitism, etc. that have already plagued that discussion. -- FreedomBound 20:31, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

We don't need to modify the code of the archive box actually, we could just use something like {{archive box|[[/link 1]]<br>[[/link 2]]<br><hr><center><b>Fan Fiction</b></center><hr>[[User:Wakawaka/link 3]]}}--Fighterdoken 20:37, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Fighter, you are an absolute STAR!!! You can have my first born!!!! :) -- Salome 20:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] On the topic that won't go away

I appreciate your efforts to craft a compromise on the link/don't-link for the non-canonical Nick. Thank you.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 02:42, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

thanks Ernie. That really does mean alot to me. :) -- Salome 23:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome. PS please call me TEF (for some reason, no one else uses, Ernie).   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 02:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

That's a total invitation to troll Ernie. Misery 06:12, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

You kept a level head there and conveyed what were basically my views with a lot more eloquence, tact and diplomacy than I could have. IMO needs more Salomes here :) Jennalee 11:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Was really worried that I just annoyed alot of peeps during that convo so I'm glad that people realised I wasn't trying to be an arse. Thus once again guys, thanks alot, it does mean alot to me. :) -- Salome 18:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] hi

don't ever do that again, please. -Auron 07:05, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Other side to the story?

I imagine there's another side to the current drama that resulted in B'crat voting changes. I'd be interested in hearing your side (either here or via email). Thanks.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 07:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

This may partially answer your question if you were unaware of it. Misery 08:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Misery. That partially answers my question.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 08:32, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Seriously Ernie, that was the best response I've had to that statement today. I don't know why, but I laughed really hard at the way you worded that. Perhaps there is something wrong with me. Misery 08:38, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, I hope it was a good just because laugh. (Perhaps there is something wrong with you: while I took pains to word my response for a possible snicker, it hardly rates a laugh unless it was entirely at my expense.)   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 09:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I think I am easily amused. What a horrible affliction. Erm, I think I also drifted off topic, so any further responses should probably be directed to my talk page, it's mostly full of irrelevant crap anyway. Misery 09:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I have responded on the talk page of the page in question. Hopefully I will have answered you there, if not please tell me and I will answer any questions you may have. -- Salome 12:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I think that addresses my concern that people might have been reacting in advance of having all the facts. I appreciate you taking the time to respond candidly to the issues raised.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 08:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

No worries TEF, anytime man. :) -- Salome 09:23, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Emails

Do you check/have an email linked to email this user, or is my email lost to the void? Misery 07:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that Miz, I have been focused on my main email account due to me getting accepted for LTK, and neglected to look at my wiki mail. I have read and responded now. :) Regards -- Salome 09:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Cool beans, just wasn't sure if you got it. I'll likely respond when I get the chance. Misery 09:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

No worries. -- Salome 09:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] You deserve this!

Sonic the CHESS NAZI Sunday 20:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

LOL, thank you kindly, although I wouldn't say owned, it was a really enjoyable match! Thank you for a great game! -- Salome 21:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] -_-

We are so good at wall of texting each other. Misery 19:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

LOL, it would seem so. :) -- Salome 19:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Time Zones

Actually, that is still being discussed at GWWT:GF#Time Zones and GWWT:GF#Final Tables Format. --DryHumour 19:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] [1]

Late ban is late. Also, passive aggression is just as much of a violation of NPA as active aggression. So, Wyn is at equal fault. Not saying that I wouldn't have done the same thing, just saying....poor timing....and poor reasoning. Karate Jesus 21:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

KJ no offence mate but your back seat sysoping is becoming tiresome, you've been doing it for awhile now and each time it's been barely hidden shit-stirring. Wuhy broke NPA, Wyn did not. Calling someone's idea stupid is not a breach of NPA, calling someone an asshole is. If you can point me to Wyn's clear breach of NPA, I would be grateful, if not I would suggest you go read policy again and see what is defined as a personal attack. I would also suggest you take into account that over the past 3 months this is the third time Wuhy has been blocked due to personal attacks. persistant troll is persistant. Also as a closing point, a 24 hour time lapse is not a get out of jail free card. Hope this helps. -- Salome 21:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Woah...is everyone stressed out or something today? The passive aggressive bullshit is getting old. Next time a simple, "KJ shut up" would suffice. Karate Jesus 22:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

It won't matter, because you can't take a hint to shut up. This drama is getting really boring and predictable. Really, it's like a broken recorder when I troll RC:"oh noes you were aggressive in a passive way" in pretty much every post you have made. I dislike Wyn and Salome in general for various reasons not different from yours, but I respect the way they ban the annoying and disruptive people from the wiki(which is doing their jobs, btw). Just read the claptrap in Wuhy's contribs, and tell me he doesn't deserve a permaban right from the start. Pika Fan 22:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, things get pretty old when you're the only one even mentioning it. -Cursed Angel 23:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Seems like some people had colonoscopies today....or should have one. Karate Jesus 23:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

No, you just need to shut up(is this direct enough?). Pika Fan 23:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad I never represent myself as who I actually am on places like this, if I took these things seriously you'd all make my brain explode. Though, "I like this place. It's exciting." And, Wyn is being passive aggressive, but what can ya do? /goes back to his cleaning. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 23:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Since i didn't bothered catching up with the background of the discussion, all this Pasive/Agressive talk is making me think of something else. Too much anime i guess XD.--Fighterdoken 23:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

lol, way to "retaliate" like an angry 12 year old. -Cursed Angel 23:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

TROLL FIGHT! /throwstroll. Karate Jesus 23:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

this isn't pvx, stop sucking each other off. -Auron 23:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

KJ shut up -Cursed Angel 23:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Armor

I did it like I did, to better viewing as well as not being too long and messed up like so many are. They're harder to see as is. 72.148.31.114 18:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

As already said on the formatting page I was going to wait til a consensus was reached either way. This wasn't aimed at you Ariyen, it was just trying to find consensus on a preferred style. -- Salome 23:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Because that section is already long enough

Have a Wii? Point and click (actually click and point, but, meh) swimming is possible (and kind of addictive) in the scuba diving game: Endless Ocean. -- FreedomBound 17:11, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

not tried it but how does it determine depth as a 3 dimensional point? As in how does it now if i want to swim just a lil up and to the side or if i want to swim up and to the side and all the way into the picture? -- Salome 17:13, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Kind of hard to describe, but you click and swim forward. That can be up, to the side, down, etc. You're kind of swimming along your viewpoint. -- FreedomBound 17:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Okie dokie, I'll probably give it a shot as in a 3 dimensional space not sure how it can work out how far into the picture i wish to swim without some other form of input indicating depth as point and click only really functions on the X, Y planes, thus with the addition of a Z plane things tend to get confusing for point and click. -- Salome 17:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

There are plenty of similar applications that have been programmed. Drag and drop of vertices in 3d modelling programs for example. It's not perfect, but you fiddle a bit and it works. Misery 17:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] writing skills

Could you maybe break future responses into paragraphs and be a little less verbose? I often find it hard to read your comments. Thanks :P -- pling 17:28, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

sorry, been writing alot of articles recently and seem to be stuck in that writing style, which is making me even more verbose than normal. I'm finding myself saying things 3 times, when once would do. I'll try and cut it down abit. -- Salome 22:32, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Don't be a spazz

I meant the hoo-hah, I wasn't calling anyone a spazz. You know I love you Salome. Misery 18:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

YAY!!!! (stops crying into pillow) -- Salome 18:20, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Color Help

Thanks for the layout template; I'm much indebted to you, Thor, and Lensor. If you've time, I need help matching the color of the tabs to the color of the page. As you can see on my user page, I can't quite get the colors to match (at least on pages that aren't the first one). How do I fix this?

Never mind; I just figured it out on my own. Sorry for pollutin' your talk page. Once again, kudos on your design. --Threid 22:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Name Pronunciation

Is it pronounced Sal-o-me, Sal-ome or Sal-o-meh? Something else? The wiki world awaits your response. --Threid 22:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

LOL, the name itself has a few different ways of being said, mainly due to it not having a clear Aramaic root and it now existing in about 8 different languages. I personally have always pronounced it "Sahl-oh-may" and when I think of my ranger that's how I say her name in my head. Hope this helps. :) EDIT: Also your user page is coming along nicely!-- Salome 00:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

That's how I wanted to pronounce it in my head. Interesting name choice, and congratulations on having a Wikipedia page devoted to your name! My user page is a near carbon-copy of yours; thanks for sharing, and for noticing. Cheers. --Threid 02:06, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Banners

Hi, just dropping you a note. Have a nice day. A F K When Needed 13:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)