User talk:Poke

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[edit] Linebreak?

I do not see any line breaks? -- Lacky 07:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

What desktop resolution are you using? poke | talk 07:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

1440x900. -- Lacky 08:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Reduce it by something (for example to 1280) and check the page again. poke | talk 08:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, I see...well a problem solved is a problem solved. -- Lacky 08:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't you move the "Also see..." back a bit? -- Lacky 08:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Just checked, it is only displayed in one line when I completely remove the margin, and then it looks a bit weird :P poke | talk 08:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

If I did the same thing that you did (which I have no idea =P) then it does look a tad weird, but not too much. -- Lacky 08:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] nicholas?

do u do every nicholas map? N122333 01:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think so :) poke | talk 09:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unnecessary double redirects?

Is there a purpose for this, this or this redirecting to another redirect? Shouldn't these rather redirect to their Feedback pages? - J.P.Talk 14:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually all those temp redirects could be deleted. poke | talk 14:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully the double redirects were by accident. If you feel adventurous, you could go see which pages link to the first page of the double redirects, and correct the now improper links. Or else, discuss it endlessly in the discussion page before making the correction. 42 - talk 00:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "This is what a category is for..."

Then why we have navs for titles, miniatures, heroes and so on? - J.P.Talk 18:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then I also want a enemies nav box (with all enemies), a enemies in <location> navbox, a boss navbox (with all bosses) and a boss in <location> navbox; all on the same page.

There is a big difference between NPCs and things you mentioned. poke | talk 18:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, fine then XD - J.P.Talk 18:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Poke, you using "category" as a reason for no NPC nav bars holds no weight. There are already category pages for the "items" that have nav bars, are you going to argue against those too? After all, they have category pages for them. Stop trying to argue against yourself and pick a side. Either that, or say the true reason you don't want NPC nav bars. The true issue isn't if there is category pages or not. If it was, you would be against nav bars period. 42 - talk 00:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Too bad sarcasm doesnt work on the internet :S --SilentStorm 00:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, despite my usual inclination, I am being serious here. People shouldn't hide behind lame excuses, especially one as blatant as this. Hiding behind "that is what category pages are for" is done far too many times, and this time, like many others, it holds no weight, especially when the individual is arguing against them on one side (NPCs), and for them (items) on another. Not technically for them, but not against them on the item side of things. 42 - talk 00:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I am not against navigation templates in general, I actually like them - when they are useful. Most of the "good" navigation templates display more than just the name as shown in the category. For example the miniatures nav shows how you get the actual miniature (/what birthday it is bound to); the consumable navigation templates display how many points they give on the title; and location-related navigation templates offer a way to easily jump to related other locations, even those in a different category tree. And there is one important thing that makes them different than an average NPC navigation template: They are useful for visitors. I have never seen anybody who was looking for other NPCs in region X. Or for other NPCs related to affiliation. And if they are interested, they will more likely go to the actual location's page and look there at the NPC section, which gives a more detailed information (profession, level) which simply won't fit into a navigation infobox.

And as I have shown in my ironical request above, a lot NPCs are in simply too many different locations/affiliations/whatever, so displaying navigation templates for all of them makes the whole idea of quick links to related pages really useless. poke | talk 08:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

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I have no problem with that being the reasoning, but trying to hide behind simply "there is a category" makes no sense, because the same could be said of the nav bars, despite there being more information than just "goes to X". People could just look that information up on the specific page for each item. That is all I am trying to say, don't say we don't need this nav bar based on there being a category. Either use the actual reasoning, which you did now, and/or recommend ways to make it more useful to follow the ideal behind the other nav bars. It was never my intention to have a nav bar on each NPC page for every category the particular NPC was in. The reason that I made the charr nav bar first, as said on the other talk page I think, was because that was the first boss table I finished. It made sense at the time to make a nav bar for it. I have been thinking about it, and thinking either a profession specific nav bar, or a campaign specific nav bar would be a better choice than type, because of the huge number of different types of NPCs in the game. I have also considered having a nav bar or one specific "see also" type of link that links to one giant nav bar on it's own page. That one would have a mini list of each one. I literally just had this idea now, and haven't had time to work it up yet. 42 - talk 20:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] AGF

I don't think they meant it.-- anguard 23:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Was still vandalism though, i did also try to revert it but couldnt work out how lol Simzy 23:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I've done accidental reverts/undos/clears in my beginner time, I didn't get banned for 3 days for it.-- anguard 23:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Look through it though, why would they replace everything with pussy if it wasnt done on purpose?Simzy 23:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't see that o_O-- anguard 23:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

NP, like i said though, i tried to revert but i dont know how and then i saw it all get removed with just pussy as the text and then Poke sorted it so i knew that he saw it all. Simzy 23:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Block

Hello, I was recomended by Auron to talk to you about blocking matters. On PvX there seems to be something funny going on with my account. When other users get blocked so does my IP at home. This has happend before and it is getting annoying now. I was wondering if you could help out.----Xtreme 11:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Sounds similar to an issue we've had here before. Now sure how ArenaNet managed to fix it, but.. that's for Poke (or Wikia) to think about. -- pling 14:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I recommend moving to Alaska. elix Omni 15:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

So do you think it is linked to the account? Then if I make a new account it would go away?----Xtreme 17:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. Have you talked to Wikia about this? They'll probably be able to tell you more. -- pling 17:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

How dose one contact Wikia?----Xtreme 17:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

User:Angela is the main Wikia person on pvx, I think. Isn't there also a Wikia noticeboard? I'm not really familiar with Wikia. -- pling 17:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

There's a wikia noticeboard we created which given our skill descriptions are still out of date they probably don't look at. The way to contact wikia is to go onto any wikia wiki (such as PvX) and go to "Special:Contact", that's a form wikia created specifically to contact them. ~ PheNaxKian 17:53, 9 November 2009

The best method of contacting Wikia staff is actually to spam Angela's talk page with passive aggressive messages that become increasingly more aggressive. Misery 17:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

It's really not. If you use Wikia:Special:Contact you are sure to get a reply within a certain timeframe. If you use my talk page, I might not see it, or I might be away, or I might need to check something with someone else and forget to come back! Angela 21:10, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

See? Passive aggressive message spamming always works! Karate Jesus 21:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey, X, time to get banned again? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:09, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

WHAT DID ARE YOU GOING TO DO?----Xtreme 21:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] -poke-

User Talk:Wynthyst#Monthly_date; Sorry, I had the wrong template. But, anyway, I'm working on this auto theme changer thingy. Do you think it would work like this? -- Halogod35 13:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

-Poke?- -- Halogod35 02:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

If you want to get my attention, don't misuse the move template, when nothing was moved; but instead just refer to previous discussions and ask me directly.

To answer your question, I refer to Seru's userpage code as he did exactly that. poke | talk 14:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Has to be that complicated? I was wondering if it's just possible to leave out dates and let it refer to the last date? (At least for now I'll just put every date in.) -- Halogod35 14:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, after rereading your initial question again, I would suggest you to simply change your user page by hand when you want to change it for events. Simply because every other way would require the server to always check the dates and get the correct version displayed. Especially with the {{time}} template.. poke | talk 22:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Script

I did use your script to add today's codex skills. - Reanimated X 07:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Good to hear, hope others working on the codex skills will notice it too :) poke | talk 09:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hello mr. Wizard.

(I think) a recent update to Google Chrome has caused it to display the navigation box and boxes that are usually below it, all the way down below the content of every page here. Do you know of an easy fix for this in my monobook or something, or should I just *sigh* switch back to firefox? — Why 20:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I use Chrome and I don't have that problem, though when there is a div or span or anything like that are not closed (no /div or /span etc). Could be that? Titani Ertan 08:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Back to firefox with you. You know it's inevitable anyway. Alternatively, try some javascriptz stylesheetz. Absolute location should probably do. I would make it for you myself but I have no $&%#@ing clue of what I'm doing. Gimme a minute, CSS only takes like half an hour to learn and with syntax highlighting I can't fail. Tee hee hee, vim is so pretty now. nvm, even easier than I thought. Here, put this bad code in your css and see what pops out:

#p-navigation
{ position:absolute; top:160px; }
#p-search
{ position:relative; top:160px; }
#p-support
{ position:relative; top:160px; }
#p-tb
{ position:relative; top:160px; }

It works on mine, anyway....–Jette 09:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, given that it works for some users it is really weird. I don't have Chrome myself to test it, but I think it is probably a problem on your side. To test, could you try removing GWWT from your monobook.js - It is unlikely (because its portlet uses the same style), but maybe there is some issue with it.

Otherwise decreasing the left margin of the "column-content" div should make more room for the portlets without changing the look. Try adding #column-content { margin-left: -15em; } to your monobook.css. poke | talk 14:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

This has also been reported Guild_Wars_Wiki:Reporting_wiki_bugs#Google_Chrome_issues. There is a link there to another script that is said to fix it. I don't use Chrome, so I can't say for sure. -- Wyn talk 15:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, tested it myself now. Add the following code to your monobook.css to fix it:

#column-one { position: absolute; width: 100%; }

I don't know why Chrome interprets this wrong, and why it works on other wikis, but this should fix the problem.. poke | talk 16:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Would putting it in the global css fix it for everyone? or would it just break it for those of us not using chrome? -- Wyn talk 16:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I would prefer not adding that to the global file, because it may not work for some browsers and break things. poke | talk 16:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

That's cool.. is why I asked.. now if someone says... "why not just put it in the global css?" I can say.... "Cuz poke said so..." <3 -- Wyn talk 16:26, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks all! — Why 19:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Stupid question....

How can one tell if an image is linked externally? I fail at manually searching for the links, and lately I keep tagging images for deletion that are externally linked and not showing up under "What links here". Is there any better way to find these that I'm not seeing? -- Wandering Traveler 01:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Special:LinkSearch/http://wiki.guildwars.com/images poke | talk 06:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Knew I was missing something. Thanks poke. -- Wandering Traveler 18:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] star

Hey, where did you get the star that you used in File:Nicholas the Traveler 20091109.jpg? — Balistic 19:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

It's a quest marker made by LordBiro; see the discussion, or the image. poke | talk 19:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and what font did you use? — Balistic 20:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

It's a proprietary font I own. poke | talk 20:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I see, thanks for map marker though (: — Balistic 20:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh and one more thing, how did you make the regular game marker disappear? — Balistic 20:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

multiple screen shots and a bit editing ;) poke | talk 20:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I made a texmod a while back that gets rid of the normal icon in favor of Biro's. I can send it to you to make that quicker, if you want. –Jette 10:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that there is no quest leading to Nicholas though :P poke | talk 14:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I could use that though. ^^ — Balistic 00:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] cite.php

Why did you remove my vote?-- Shew 20:34, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind. I see that we have it now. XD-- Shew 20:40, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Just found out.

class="hiddenlinks" doesn't work in GW2W. - J.P.Talk 09:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. I'll update the styles over there later. poke | talk 14:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

done! poke | talk 08:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Oops.

Yeah, sorry, I was a bit dense not to think of that. A F K When Needed 19:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

hehe, no problem :D poke | talk 19:19, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] SWEET!

The RC i mean ^^ - J.P.Talk 18:08, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

That's really nothing.. Too many images tagged as "orphaned" who are not really orphaned btw.. :( poke | talk 18:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I saw the Death Nova Beta restoration poke ^^ Misery 18:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I hit it in my automated routine, and only noticed its name when I saw the other large icon (which was linked from somewhere) :P poke | talk 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict x2) I found the same thing yesterday when I went through the list although most of them were guild images where the guild page had been moved to historical. Still good to see that list get cleared even more. --Kakarot 18:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) This is why bots (and poke) should not be allowed to delete things to be honest. I'm emotionally scarred now. Misery 18:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Think mine was 248 deletions in about 53 minutes so about one every 12-13 seconds , would of been faster if I didn't have to fix images that shouldn't of been tagged. --Kakarot 18:20, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Well Misery, when I start deleting, and see a lot of images tagged as orphaned in the list, I stop thinking and go like "check usage -> if not used anywhere -> go delete -> 'orphaned image' -> delete! -> next tab -> .."; can't help it when the image is completely unused and unlinked... :( poke | talk 18:22, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Poke, I don't even look at pages when I delete them on PvX and votes cannot be restored. Totally not blaming you ^^

Over 1100 deletions for me, I guess I stopped caring around 100 and I am guessing you have quite a few more.Misery 18:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I remember times when we had ~1000 a day :P poke | talk 18:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Mine were all manual and technically were supposed to be checked first >_>

Then I realised that if I didn't recognise the name of the build from the meta no one would care if I deleted it anyway. Misery 18:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I would say GMTA but...

... you always think of things before me. This time I'm referring to this edit which made use of a template I hadn't noticed existed. This morning; as in right now; I was going to suggest an addition to the previous template on that page for the addition of a "show differences" link since I always find that the easiest way to see what has changed in a policy proposal. Then I noticed while going through my watchlist that you had already done it back in June ... keep up the good work :) --Kakarot 11:39, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Haha, I actually had to look up GMTA :D But yeah, that template was part of my policy cleanup project since the very beginning ^^ poke | talk 13:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Some help

Hey, Poke. I know you're pretty amazing at wiki stuff, so I thought I'd ask for you a hand. I stole Emily Diehl's userpage layout and I'm currently trying to use it on PvX; however, it does things like this and this where it moves my tools to the bottom of the page and doesn't give me section "edit" links. Could you help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? I think I left a div openended or something. Karate Jesus 20:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Fixed – Also, Happy Birthday :) poke | talk 21:07, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! But, um what's wrong with this page? Karate Jesus 21:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Fixed as well :D poke | talk 21:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Haha, sorry to trouble you on that one. I just went and changed it. Thanks so much for your help! Btw, I may be adding a bot account to PvX soon (to do some grunt work) and might ask you for some help on that. Out of curiosity, what type of system do you use for Wikichu? Something like Python or AWB or what? Karate Jesus 21:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikichu is running multiple different self written bot frameworks in different languages (depending on its task :P) ^^ poke | talk 21:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

You're so advanced :/ I just hope my bot doesn't fuck up PvX, tbh. Karate Jesus 22:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC)