User talk:Pling

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[edit] So...

User merge is installed i see. When is this possible for others as well? Because i thought to change my actual username to J.P. ^^ - J.P.Talk 20:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Since it seems UserMerge works fine, I'm guessing straight away - the consensus seemed to be for leaving merges to reasonable user requests + bureaucrat discretion. I'm fine with merging Jope12 to J.P (do you want J.P. or J.P?). I'll do it in a bit; I'm still sorting out the remnants of my own move at the moment, and just in case there's disagreement to it (though I don't think there would be). --pling  21:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

J.P. please, it's my (useless :D) redirect account. I can go through my images on my own thank you. There are only few anyway. - J.P.Talk 21:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

There are a couple of concerns I have about the extension that didn't turn up during testing, so I'm going to delay this until tomorrow or thereabouts - hopefully it'll get cleared up by then. --pling  21:50, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I understand. Since there are all of these errors around, the merge might get f****d up big time. And we don't want that :P - J.P.Talk 21:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

What could be the possible problems we might face with this extension? - J.P.Talk 10:40, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I was a little concerned about my preferences not syncing across the two wikis, since that could indicate a larger problem (e.g. how the accounts are linked); that's my simpleton view though, Poke has much more detailed/correct info about that :P. The user IDs are the same, so there shouldn't be a problem. I've noticed that the preferences need an edit on the appropriate wiki to update (for example, if I changed my preferences on GWW, I need to make an edit on GW2W for the GW2W preferences to sync). I don't think that's how it worked before, but maybe it's because of the bugs we're seeing on the wiki? I dunno. Also, the number of edits count doesn't take into account the merged contributions, i.e. it only counts the edits made originally by the new account. Poke has an explanation for that.

Other than that, the extension works fine - contribs are merged properly, histories/logs updated. --pling  11:07, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

But you still think my account merge isn't a good idea right now? - J.P.Talk 11:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I would like to wait until the caching and login issues are completely gone again, before doing that again, so we can check if there is a problem with the wiki connection (between GWW and GW2W) or if it's just because of the global issues. However if you want to have your account merged, you have to accept that you won't be able to use the contribution counter that is displayed within the preferences, because that number won't get updated when the contributions are reassigned. poke | talk 18:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Is it normal behaviour of this extension to not merge the contritubion counters? - J.P.Talk 21:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

You have to take into account that the user databases of GWW and GW2W are linked and as such everything works different. That is also the reason why the renameuser extension doesn't work at all. poke | talk 21:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I just thought to ask about RenameUser :D I can wait until we find out what's wrong in these extensions ^^ - J.P.Talk 21:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you tested that does the deletion of an account that has been merged into another have any effect? I just wonder, since Mediawiki encourages to delete these accounts.

By the way, should we take this discussion to somewhere else? User talkpage might not be the best place for this... - J.P.Talk 01:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Deletion won't work for the same reason RenameUser doesn't work. poke | talk 10:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Poke, I believe the login/session loss issues have been resolved, Emily said IT closed the ticket, and I have not had any problems at all tonight. -- Wyn talk 12:02, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Ok, so I tested the preferences stuff again and got the same results. An edit needs to be made for the relevant prefs to sync. I tested with Brains12 in case it was specifically this account, and I got the same. Then I tested with a completely new account (i.e. one that hadn't been merged or anything) and I again got the same. I don't think that's how it worked before the update, but it seems to be consistent and unrelated to the merged accounts. If you guys can also test this on your own accounts, that would be helpful too. Testing other things like time might also be useful (it could be that it's similar to image caching... maybe?). --pling  13:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

You can use my account or my J.P. account if you want. In the name of science Wiki! =)

It might help if we would know (or do we?) what kind of effects this extension has on other wikies.

@Pling: It doesn't bother you if we keep this topic on your talk page? - J.P.Talk 14:31, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mean that I wanted to go on your account, I just suggested that you could try testing yourself if you were bored and wanted some mild entertainment. Change your sig, for example, and see what happens on the other wiki. You don't need to, but as you said - science!

I'm fine with keeping the discussion here; not sure which other page this could go on at the moment, so I'm not fussed about moving it. --pling  15:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this is any breaking news, but when i change my signature in here, it takes effect in GW2W right away.

But when i change my signature in GW2W, it takes almost 10 minutes to take effect in here.

I'll do the test few more times. - Jope12Talk 15:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, did the test again. This time it took about 2 minutes until changes in here took effect in GW2W.

Changes in GW2W took effect in here immediately this time.

Anything else i could test? Or should i do more signature tests? - J.P.Talk 18:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

No, that's ok. --pling  19:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to "reboot" the GW2W, if you know what i mean? - J.P.Talk 10:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Er, I don't know what you mean :P --pling  17:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Wait, back up a sec.

"Then I tested with a completely new account"

Is that what I think it means? -- NUKLEAR IIV 20:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

That I created accounts for the purposes of cross-testing an extension and various other technical features on the two wikis? Yes. --pling  21:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Awww, can't we make jibes about your sock puppet?

What's his name anyway? Is it serious? Do we get to meet him? What does he do? -- NUKLEAR IIV 22:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

This is srs bsns! We're trying to get things working here.

@Pling:Restart. - J.P.Talk 15:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I know what reboot means, I'm not sure how you can apply it to GW2W. In other words, I don't think so. --pling  15:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I mean that we shut GW2W down, save it as it is now, delete the user database there. Then we just put everything back. I don't know the <beep> about these things and i don't know is it even possible.

Is there any hope to get these extension work by any chance? Any news? If not, i personaly think we should just dump these. - J.P.Talk 15:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that's possible/feasible, no.

UserMerge works, but it's been uninstalled (probably unintentionally). --pling  16:50, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

How i got the impression that RenameUser doesn't work either? For starters, your tests show re-renaming didn't work. And Poke said (above) it doesn't work at all :S - J.P.Talk 13:04, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Read again what Pling wrote please... <_< poke | talk 13:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

/FACEPALMMONSTAH!!! :D - J.P.Talk 13:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Want me to go ahead with merging Jope12 (talk • contribs • logs • block log) into J.P. (talk • contribs • logs • block log)? -- pling 20:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yup ^^ - J.P.Talk 20:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. You still have to move your userspace pages over, that's not done automatically (remember to leave redirects for your userpage and user talk). Enjoy :) -- pling 20:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Did that for you. You still need to move your monobooks, since they're protected. Titani Ertan 21:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I still think it's important for us to meet your puppet. -- NUKLEAR IIV 20:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Pling/Sandbox - I think they're all linked there... I try not to get too creative with my account names, but I guess I just can't help seeping some pure imagination and originality into them. -- pling 20:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Pling ^^ Everything seems to work as they should, for now :D Just ask if you wanna know something. - J.P.Talk 00:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Only odd change so far has been in Jope12's preferences.Edit counter lost a bit over a hundred edits :P - J.P.Talk 12:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

As I said, the edit count in the preferences is quite broken.. poke | talk 16:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I know but this is the first i see the counter getting lower :P - J.P.Talk 18:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

^ Titani Ertan 05:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why, but I'd like to reciprocate! Congratz! -- NUKLEAR IIV 20:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

GZ! :D is for Raine, etc. 23:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I dont know what I'm Gz-ing for but GZ all the same. -- Salome 15:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

You are not able to understand an arrow to the section above? :S poke | talk 15:58, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh i thought the arrow was to the heading not to the section above. -- Salome 16:00, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

It was. But to make this clear: CONGRATULATIONS!!! Brains12~pling.

k? Titani Ertan 16:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but what are we congratulating for? -- NUKLEAR IIV 16:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

It's the new name... poke | talk 16:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Whoa. That was fast. Wasn't he always pling? (Do'h!, silly me). -- NUKLEAR IIV 16:15, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Good morning. Titani Ertan 16:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] so

How do you change your name ? Lilondra *poke* 12:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

You create the account name that you want, then get a bureaucrat to move your old contributions over. -- pling 14:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

talk about "no, we won't do that. why? because then everyone will want to." - Y0_ich_halt 16:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

They've done two already, so I don't see that happening. Though it has the potential to generate some drama... -- NUKLEAR IIV 16:45, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

i thought i'd give trolling a try, though it appears i'll rest unsuccessful :) - Y0_ich_halt 18:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

You could've asked to get your name changed like 20 times, each to something more obscure and illegilable than the one before, and then bitch about Beaucratz messing up your contributions. WUBLEAR

VII 18:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

You can be sure that even the first name change won't happen in such a case... poke | talk 20:46, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

hey, i wanna change my name to Y_0_h_i_l_t_r_l_a_r_t! - Y0_ich_halt 22:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Following on...

Hey Brains, Wyn said to ask you about it as you seem to be the expert on this subject.

Just some follow up questions, do I still keep both accounts and the info on the user/talk pages, and it just merges the contributions, or does it delete them?

Thanks.-- Chris Malone 07:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Both accounts will still exist with all user settings kept (like watchlist or preferences). The only thing that happens is that all contributions (including log entries and such) are transferred (or renamed) from one account to another. So the source account will end with zero contributions and the target account will have its own and all the contributions from the source account. We should write some FAQ about this :P poke | talk 07:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

If you want an example, see my old account Brains12 (talk • contribs • logs • block log) which has had its contributions/logs moved over to my new account, Pling (talk • contribs • logs • block log).

And yes, an FAQ would be nice. It could double up as a request page, maybe - I don't want every request to be on my talk page (especially when my term's over and I wouldn't be able to do anything about it :P). We could use the admin noticeboard for requests, but if we're going to have a separate FAQ page we might as well include requests on it (keep things centralised, etc). -- pling 15:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Would we need a policy around this? I don't think it's such a must, but what do you think? But we might need rules of somekind - J.P.Talk 16:12, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The consensus was just to have it down to user requests and bureaucrat discretion. I don't think it needs to be made into policy; the FAQ should provide any info necessary. -- pling 16:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I created Guild Wars Wiki:Requests for user merge at poke's request/suggestion - make sure it makes sense and is easily understandable, and make a request there when ready. -- pling 20:30, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Alright, cheers guys. -- Lacky 07:28, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Isn't b'crat election Wiki news?

I added the b'crat nomination process to news for 3 reasons:

1. it's news
2. for those who dismissed the site notice, but didn't think to "watch" any of the pages (it's much easier to find from the portal than any other way)
3. it seemed odd to see the RfAs listed without noting the election (although, as you suggested, one gets a site notice and the other doesn't)

  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:12, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Elections were always added to the news, weren't they? --- Mini Me 20:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Also sorry for not looking at the history first :( - Mini Me 20:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

The results have been listed in the past, the actual stages of the election haven't - the sitenotice is on every page, so it generally isn't missed. If people dismiss it, it's likely they've read it and they're aware an election is taking place, or they're not particularly bothered. Since it's renewed at the beginning of each stage, it's not hard to miss. -- pling 20:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I routinely dismiss site notices without remembering to bookmark (or, out of habit, without reading them). Later, I realize I want to see the notice again.

Although the benefit of inclusion is minor, I am having trouble seeing any downside (outside of going against tradition).   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

You can re-add it if you wish. -- pling 09:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Slightly confused on a tag you added...

On Tyria (world) you added the {{rewrite}} tag due to "subjective; rhetoric" - just wondering, how exactly is it subjective? -- Konig/talk 12:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

it's not an objective report from a player's point of view (as expected from an encyclopedia) but an image-filled description by a narrator. iow it sounds more like a story of a traveller than a wiki article. you could say it's subjective because the ways in which regions are described give an opinion. - Y0_ich_halt 13:33, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

^ -- pling 14:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what is so wrong about an in-game view of lore portions of articles. I think it makes the read more interesting, to be honest. -- Konig/talk 16:30, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

We are not here to advertize and make things more interesting though, we are here to document the game. poke | talk 16:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

True, but wouldn't it make things not only easier to read, but more worthwhile to document and drawing more attention (and in effect, create more Guild Wars Wiki:Projects/Featured pages worthy articles), if we make it interesting to do so? Meh, either way, guess I'm fine with it if it is the rules. -- Konig/talk 17:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Pages get featured when they are well written and have good content; not if they are better advertisements than others.. poke | talk 18:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Advertising things of the game would be the whole featured articles project, or things like PvX. Writing the lore portions from an in-game view is still documenting the game, just not from a player view. Is the view in which something is written really that big of a deal? I mean, as long as it is still accurate information, I really cannot see where the issue is. But, I'm not an admin or sysop, so I guess my opinions don't matter much. -- Konig/talk 18:54, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Your opinions matter just as much as poke's or mine, and we're not doing anything here as sysops.

I think that when things get too rhetorical and more entertain-y rather than informative-y, the latter gets weakened. Whether something is opulent or magnificent is entirely subjective - as a reader, I want to know the true details and not what certain figures in-game might think. If something is to be documented, it should be objective and unbiased, so if you want to say something is "opulent", say for example "and palaces, which are described by such and such person to be opulent". It's a third-party kind of view - we're not characters in the world of Guild Wars, we're observers documenting the game's contents. -- pling 22:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

After reading the tyria(world) article I wonderd what is Subjective about it? I think the story has been writing that it looks like it is subjective but eveything you read are facts. So instat of rewriting this article we should feature it because it is a very good and well written article.--Wysth 19:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

After not coming back here for a while, figured I'd put my next say-so. For the terms opulent and magnificent used for Cantha - that was there since 2007, yet now is the issue? Anyways, I think if we change Tyria (world) because of this issue, we should change Lore, Kurzick, Luxon, Gods of Tyria, and others because they too have parts, if not the whole lore sections, that are written from a player-potent in-game view (that is, written from an in-game view, but knows what players know - wanted to be clear since I made the term up). To be honest, how I see it, it isn't the view of how it is written, but just the opinions within it - which would mean the above statements, excluding Pling's last statement, are mostly not even on the issue at hand. After re-reading the section, I only see two problems - the second sentence of the paragraph on Cantha ("Compared to the namesake continent, the Empire of the Dragon is prospering, with opulent palaces and magnificent forests dominating the area.") which can be fixed by removing opulent and magnificent - and the ending of the paragraph on Elona ("However, rumors spread that the undead scourge – freed from his prison in the fight against Abaddon – is mustering his forces once more. Only time will tell if these rumors are true, and if they are then all Elona may be in trouble.") - the later is only an issue because I wrote it to leave a bit of unknown on GW2 lore. That is, it isn't a fully player-potent view, but it is done so to keep GW2 lore out of the GW1W. I have fixed the first problem I saw as it was just two adjectives, and shall leave the second for discussion on whether to include the GW2 lore, or not. -- Konig/talk 14:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I dont think the last part of the paragraph is subjective. Since this wiki is bout stuf that happens in guildwars 1 we can not say a thing about guildwars 2 since that still has to happen in the future. So adding things that say anything about them comming back or not is not documenting the game but predecting the future. What is beeing said here is, if you ask me,a nice way to say we have no clue what will happen and can't tell you, the future will tell. And @konig the words you cut out may appear subjective but I think a forest or a Sea may be called magnificent wenn it covers a quater of the continent, but I have no problem with removing it.--Wysth 17:05, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Konig, it might have been there for a while, but I only pointed it out when I noticed it - I don't see every change when it's made. But anyway, I'm not too fussed about this, I just don't think there should be subjective descriptions in articles, which is the main point here. If that means changing various other pages... then it means changing them; that's not a reason against removing subjective description. As far as I know, we've always preferred objective to subjective content, so it's not like this would be a major change - just some lore articles/sections would need improving, I think.

Guild Wars 2 lore can be touched upon, but it shouldn't be written in a rhetorical story-telling way. We pretty much know that Joko'll invade Elona, so we can say so if it's relevant to the article; though I'm not sure how it's relevant to the geography of Elona, so it could be removed. In fact, a lot of that section is more about the lore of each continent rather than the physical geography. -- pling 18:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Just letting you guys know that I largely agree with pling on this matter. — Why 00:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] why do you remove skill link

i dont understand your comment : http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Everlasting_Mobstopper&curid=228836&diff=1757501&oldid=1757469 The point of skill field is to link to the related skill page (even if it has same name...). Do you plan to tag for deletion the related skill page ? Until then, it just avoids to have one more orphelin skill page... Elephant 21:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

The skill isn't actually applied by the item - they appear to be unrelated, other than by name. It might even be non-existent (I think it was retrieved through the gw.dat, not from the game itself). I assume it'll make an appearance soon, possibly through a future quest, but if it doesn't it can then be deleted (or treated however gw.dat-only info is). -- pling 21:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, to your comment (the skill isn't actually present (yet?);), yes there is actually a skill activated and applied by item when used in game ;)... Elephant 13:20, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

You get Weakened by Dhuum, but you have no access to the Everlasting Mobstopper skill (yet). poke | talk 13:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Please leak more information ;) Elephant 13:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's not confirmed or anything; just a good guess. We still have the final battle against Dhuum left, and it could be possible that we get that skill then (instead of having the item). poke | talk 13:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

But when? This festival ends soon. And the storyline is still left open in my opinion. - J.P.Talk 22:38, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] /ave

Danny here - I'm just curious about something. How are my edits and insults any worse than Shard's? Also, I'd love to see some links to the edits you're particularly referencing. 85.13.197.154 09:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

ups. my bad. proxies are messy with wiki error codes. 85.13.197.154 09:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not a matter of whether yours are "worse" than anyone else's, you are only responsible for you own statements and those are what are being questioned, not compared. The simple fact is, calling people "dipshit", and maligning them personally is a violation of NPA. You tend to push it way beyond the limits, and should be amazed you have not been blocked previously. -- Wyn talk 11:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

^ pretty much. Specifically, [1], [2], [3]. Also, if you want to discuss a block, contact me off-wiki - my userpage has email and MSN info - or wait until the block's over. -- pling 17:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sig

I still don't see the big deal cause it links to pages. I hope this is good enough----Xtreme 17:50, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that's fine. The appearance of the link, in a signature, matters too - when I'm reading a comment, I'd like to also read the writer's name. -- pling 17:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] You made me feel warm and fuzzy inside for reasons I cannot comprehend or describe

:P. NuVII 18:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Pling aims to please. Vili 点 18:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I have that effect on people. I'm just that awesome. -- pling 19:01, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Directed towards?

Whom? -- FreedomBound 21:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Kittens. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.159.45.96 (talk) at 21:09, 09 November 2009 (UTC).

Everybody, if it is obvious that it's Moo Kitty of course. poke | talk 22:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] (disruption: personal attacks, constant bickering, causing unnecessary drama, refusal to heed comments/advice/warnings, 1RR, asshattery, etcetc)

Best block summary ever. NuVII 19:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] CONGRATULATIONS!!

You win the best ban award! Your prize: A template that you can show off with! You must be real proud! :D Titani Ertan 20:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Meh.. as far as ban goes, i have seen more epic ones (hint: check the oldest one XD).--Fighterdoken 20:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

It's exactly the same. What going on here. elix Omni 20:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

oh wait -Cursed Angel 20:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

agree with CA - Y0_ich_halt 20:54, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratz! here, have a cookie! Jonny10 21:03, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I think that blocking yourself and not unblocking is... chivalrous, noble, and just weird. But blocking yourself for vandalism, and then unblocking with the saying "rofl wrong persn :/" - that deserves a reward. Also, Fighterdoren, that's exactly the ban I talked about. Titani Ertan 05:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

AH pling is a schizophrenic robot nazi vampire that is going to take over the world ! (watch sxephil if you don't get it).No srsly it is quite epic :) have a nice day ^^ Lilondra 05:30, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

titani, you do know who raptors is, don't you? - Y0_ich_halt 12:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I vaguely remember a discussion with a User:Raptors coming up. Pourquoi? Titani Ertan 14:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

because he's what makes tanaric's ban epic ;) - Y0_ich_halt 15:16, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Just a heads-up, this is outdated. — Why 02:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

thanks -- pling 10:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Question?

Is it possible to be banned for only 1 second?--Unendingfear 03:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Plingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingplingpling. Pling pling plingaling. Pling! is for Raine, etc. 04:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Whaaaa? o___O--Unendingfear 04:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes. You can also set ban lengths in fortnights. Vili 点 05:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Lol, I want a one second ban now! ^__^--Unendingfear 05:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Aren't you proud of your clean record? — Why 12:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Ya, but a 1 second REQUESTED ban will not tarnish it >:P--Unendingfear 15:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The block tool is not a toy. -Auron 15:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

>_>--Unendingfear 15:14, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

srz bzns - Y0_ich_halt 17:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Indeed :P--Unendingfear 17:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)