Talk:Shadow Form (PvP)

From Guild Wars Wiki

[edit] GAY

NOW I CAN'T PONE NOOBS ANYMORE SOMEONE HELP ME Vael Victus 23:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

use a less cheap PvP elite... Treesbyty 01:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Lol *throws this in the box of can never be used again in anyway shape or form* Halogod35 04:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It's either rubbish or Godmode with this skill, just wait untill it gets buffed again, and nerfed again, and buffed again..--Arduinna 09:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Nah, with this new PvP/PvE system of skills - it is pretty much set in stone that it will never change. I am almost willing to bet this is what this skill will be at for a long time.

this skill was fine before, they could bring it back by dropping hp loss or reducing the amout you lose not that it cant be maintained permanently. Shadowshock 18:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I still use it on my fire ele for Aspenwood and AB. Dont need shadow form long to drop meteor shower...teleport in, drop chain and then teleport back out--Justice 17:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Your use is probably what they meant shadow form to be used as: a jump in deal damage, then jump out. I'm sure they didn't mean shadow form to be able to be maintained indefinately. StatMan 21:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maintainable?

Isnt it maintaineable using Deadly Paradox and Quickening Zephyr? C4K3 13:42, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but a better way would be using Deadly Paradox and Glyph of Swiftness, partially because it's faster and simpler but also because Quickening Zephyr would hurt an already expensive build so much that it wouldn't be affordable. ---Chaos- 16:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

For PvE yes, but it is just barely maintainable using Deadly Paradox and Glyph of Swiftness in PvE, so i was wondering if it would work in PvP with Quickening Zephyr instead of Glyph of Swiftness(in PvP there's an extra 15 second recharge) -- C4K3 18:34, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Might work if you bring QZ on another character. But it kind of defeats the purpose because anyone will just kill QZ as soon as it gets up. 85.225.61.189 18:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, caltrops maybe? And then you can also put it a place where it will be hard/harder to reach. Anyway im gonna test this soon, check if you have enough energy to do it and all -- C4K3 18:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Skill recharge reduction doesn't stack past 50% so no, you won't be able to maintain it in PvP no matter what you do. Misery 18:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Ohh, that would explain why nobody tried this yet, atleast now we wont see noobs doing perm SF in PvP -- C4K3 16:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Even with the skill recharge redux cap, what about arcane echo and echo? 60 * .5 = 30, and SF can last for up to 15... 96.237.158.102 18:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Arcane Echo combined with somebody else's Quickening Zephyr may work, but you cant fit Echo in there since thats an elite skill, but lets see, yeah, that could work -- i think im gonna try that out now C4K3 20:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: Wait sorry, that wouldnt work, didnt notice the PvP version also had decreased duration (thought it just had increased recharge) tested and it does not work C4K3 20:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

So I'm guessing that you haven't noticed perma sins in PvE using both Deadly Paradox AND Glyph of Swiftness? One is -66% recharge, the other is -25%. If it doesn't stack beyond 50% there would be no need to go /E. Paddymew 16:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

You haven' checked Deadly Paradox recently, it was nerfed to 33% AGES ago. So yes, there is a point to GoS 80.229.90.113 20:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)