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[edit] How much armor penetration? (stack)

If I use a ranger with a sundering hornbow, with penetrating attack, sundering weapon (cracked armor). 10% of hornbow, 20% for sundering, 10% for the other sundering, 20% for attack skill, 20% for cracked armor. So do I have 80% armor penetration now? And if I use Judges Insight aswell, do I have 100%? - Niphadora

Cracked Armor doesn't cause armor penetration. -- Gordon Ecker 09:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Or is it multiplied, such as HCT/HSR mods? if you have a 20/20/20/20 staff, your HCT and HSR are not 40%, but 36%. Is this the same for AP? -elviondale (tahlk) 16:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
20/20/20/20 staff? What does a +1 to attribute have to do with anything? Paddymew 13:50, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Which Category?

What determines base AP from additive AP? Judges insight is a spell, and causes AP, yet it's extra while other spells are base. Confusing? Silavor Image:UserSilavorSigIcon.png 01:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Well it could be the wording in the skills. Judges Insight and Warrior's Might has the +10% AP clause while the skills that have base AP say "This spell/skill/attack has xx% armor penetration." and lacks the + sign. --74.61.209.219 20:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I still don't get it :P

Lets say I use Spear of Lightning *which grants 25% AP* with 10 in Strength *which grants 10% AP*, does that mean the spear attack will have an armor penetration of 35%? or there is a cap and it only applies the armor penetration of Spear of Lightning? and if there is a cap on how much armor penetration a skill or an attack can have, how much is it o.o" ??? Aljazya 18:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

25%. You use your highest Base AP value (Spear of Lightning's 25 v Strenght's 10), and then you add any bonus AP like a Sundering weapon or Judge's Insight. There isn't a cap on AP, but there aren't many sources of +AP. - Image:User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG HeWhoIsPale 18:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SO...

...Strength doesnt stack with Penetrating Chop ??

Good question, I want to find the answer too. If I have 10 points in Strengh (10%AP) and have Judge's Insight (20%AP) will this result in 30% AP ??? And if so, 30% AP plus the Penetrating Chop will this result in 50% ??? Please we need answers !
... if AP by strength does not stack... this makes Strength useless
True. divine favour stack, expertise stack, energy storage stack, fast casting stack, soul reaping stack. This make warrior the weakest primary profession to have.
First sign your comment, second test your-selfes, you have time to play GW don't you ? Then you have time to test. 92.85.194.203 14:25, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Some ppl argue that strength has many useful skills. True, but each player get to bring 8 skills only anyway.
Some ppl argue that warrior is compensate by high armor rating. Well, doesn't high armor rating ALREADY compensated by slower energy regeneration and smaller energy pool?
Lets say armor penetration is useful in PvE, when facing boss with high armor. PvP? It's not that useful relatively.